Does ANYONE understand what Sean Penn said on ’60 Minutes’?

Sean Penn met “El Chapo,” we hear. But can anyone translate what the actor told Charlie Rose on Sunday night’s “60 Minutes” — whether it’s about the drug issue, Joaquín Guzmán or journalism?

“To overdemonize any human being is not in our best self-interest,” Penn told Rose. “Like it or not, we’re married to them. They’re of our time. They’re affecting us. So like a marriage, you know, you might want a divorce. But you’ve got to look at this person as a person.”

Say what?

That’s what journalists and celebrity watchers are asking in the wake of Penn’s Rolling Stone article and his defense of said piece.

Sean Penn should have done his 60 Minutes interview as Jeff Spicoli. He would have made more sense.

— Bruce Hooley (@BHOOLZ) January 18, 2016

I would have loved to hear even more of what Sean Penn had 2 say about the miserable state of journalism. Hope CBS (or Sean) will post more.

— Michael Moore (@MMFlint) January 18, 2016

‘Cartel’s Don Winslow responds to Sean Penn: “call it anything you want – except journalism” https://t.co/ka9sqbJivF pic.twitter.com/LqXvDMEDPD

— Deadline Hollywood (@Deadline) January 18, 2016

Remember When Sean Penn Wanted to Throw Actual Journalists in Prison? https://t.co/7oDEpfjqP0 (By @HashtagGriswold) pic.twitter.com/mxzSHThYOp

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) January 18, 2016

I still don’t get the “it’s not journalism!” thing re: Sean Penn’s El Chapo interview. It *is* journalism, just not very good journalism.

— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) January 18, 2016

I need Sean Penn to interview my neighbors who bang their trash cans at 6:30 AM.

— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) January 18, 2016

Wow, Sean Penn is willing to go to any lengths for the best coke.

— Bonnie McFarlane (@bonniemcfarlane) January 18, 2016